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Sigurd's Descendants: The Art of Dragon Slaying.
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Dodik
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By Dodik 2024-09-13 06:33:17
Not really. I see shining outperform trishula all the time on non-one-shottable things.
Sad that an ambu weapon beats an aeonic of the same type but it is what it is.
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By SimonSes 2024-09-13 07:25:59 Link|引用|返事
Atrox78 said: »
Dodik said: »
Atrox78 said: »
I've never seen shinning out parse a properly geared drg spamming stardiver.
Citation needed.
On anything that can't be one spotted? Better?
According to simulation against target with Apex Toad stats, it's not even close.
Trishula: 2.76 sec to WS
Trishula DPS: 12874
Trishula WS median: 53781
Shining One: 4.425 second to WS
Shining One DPS: 17257
Shining One WS median: 90305
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By K123 2024-09-13 07:35:57 Link|引用|返事
90k WS median? Really? Sounds like bs
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By Dodik 2024-09-13 07:38:29 Link|引用|返事
Sounds like you need better impulse drive sets.
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By Phoenix.Iocus 2024-09-13 07:39:08 Link|引用|返事
Ragnarok.Creaucent said: »
Atrox78 said: »
SimonSes said: »
Atrox78 said: »
Drg > War for single weilding. Faster tp gain by far, even when not subbing war.
Gearset is more less solid. Can swap in nyame or Odin head if you need survivability and nyame feet. You'd hardly notice a difference.
In closing, make Gae Buide and forever rid yourselves from that stupid sword (unless doing Bumba, or sheol C, or some helms).
You can't really use Odin head, it has no haste and this set without head has only 24% haste. Naegling build requires 26%, because you don't have hasso from /sam.
I said IF you need survivability which would take priority.
If you need survivability there are better options to switch to like Gleti's or Nyame heads if you still need haste on the head slot.
Nyame A path is pretty amazing for DT tp set on DRG. Also Kraken Club/AM3 builds. You're not going to use B path for anything besides Raiden Thrust on DRG and most of the DDs are similar between AF/relic/empy WSD head pieces because of the stats vs nyame.
By SimonSes 2024-09-13 07:48:02 Link|引用|返事
K123 said: »
90k WS median? Really? Sounds like bs
Dodik said: »
Sounds like you need better impulse drive sets.
K123 is right, I haven't used sim in like 7 months and forgot i put custom moonshade earring there to simulate savagery. I'm really sorry hahaha
checking it again..
I also added Angon because attack wasn't capped.
Trishula: 2.76 sec to WS
Trishula DPS: 12494
Trishula WS median: 43824
Shining One: 4.812 second to WS
Shining One DPS: 13802
Shining One WS median: 74605
Stardiver is at 1000TP+, Impulse at 1750TP+
Sim shows that waiting for higher TP with Trishula is DPS loss.
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By Dodik 2024-09-13 07:58:11 Link|引用|返事
Phoenix.Iocus said: »
You're not going to use B path for anything besides Raiden Thrust on DRG
Unless you want to use savage blade, or Gae Buide..
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By Nariont 2024-09-13 08:14:03 Link|引用|返事
Think that was specific to headgear, so emp+3 fills that spot
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By Ragnarok.Creaucent 2024-09-13 08:33:51 Link|引用|返事
Phoenix.Iocus said: »
Ragnarok.Creaucent said: »
Atrox78 said: »
SimonSes said: »
Atrox78 said: »
Drg > War for single weilding. Faster tp gain by far, even when not subbing war.
Gearset is more less solid. Can swap in nyame or Odin head if you need survivability and nyame feet. You'd hardly notice a difference.
In closing, make Gae Buide and forever rid yourselves from that stupid sword (unless doing Bumba, or sheol C, or some helms).
You can't really use Odin head, it has no haste and this set without head has only 24% haste. Naegling build requires 26%, because you don't have hasso from /sam.
I said IF you need survivability which would take priority.
If you need survivability there are better options to switch to like Gleti's or Nyame heads if you still need haste on the head slot.
Nyame A path is pretty amazing for DT tp set on DRG. Also Kraken Club/AM3 builds. You're not going to use B path for anything besides Raiden Thrust on DRG and most of the DDs are similar between AF/relic/empy WSD head pieces because of the stats vs nyame.
As much as i would like to justify path A Nyame as a DRG main.... path B offers so much more for other jobs its hard to turn it down. Nyame path B still gets DA+4-5% at ranks 25-30.
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By SimonSes 2024-09-13 08:38:02 Link|引用|返事
and just to put above numbers to perspective:
Gae Buide: 3.283 sec to WS (1250TP+)
Gae Buide DSP: 16872
Gae Buide WS median: 69541
Naegling/Kraken: 1.401 sec to WS (1300TP+)
Naegling/Kraken DPS: 26646
Naegling/Kraken WS median: 76160
Naegling/Fencer: 3.255 sec to WS (1250TP+)
Naegling/Fencer: 18828
Naegling/Fencer WS median: 86058
Naegling all the things XD
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2024-09-13 08:58:20 Link|引用|返事
Ragnarok.Creaucent said: »
Phoenix.Iocus said: »
Ragnarok.Creaucent said: »
Atrox78 said: »
SimonSes said: »
Atrox78 said: »
Drg > War for single weilding. Faster tp gain by far, even when not subbing war.
Gearset is more less solid. Can swap in nyame or Odin head if you need survivability and nyame feet. You'd hardly notice a difference.
In closing, make Gae Buide and forever rid yourselves from that stupid sword (unless doing Bumba, or sheol C, or some helms).
You can't really use Odin head, it has no haste and this set without head has only 24% haste. Naegling build requires 26%, because you don't have hasso from /sam.
I said IF you need survivability which would take priority.
If you need survivability there are better options to switch to like Gleti's or Nyame heads if you still need haste on the head slot.
Nyame A path is pretty amazing for DT tp set on DRG. Also Kraken Club/AM3 builds. You're not going to use B path for anything besides Raiden Thrust on DRG and most of the DDs are similar between AF/relic/empy WSD head pieces because of the stats vs nyame.
As much as i would like to justify path A Nyame as a DRG main.... path B offers so much more for other jobs its hard to turn it down. Nyame path B still gets DA+4-5% at ranks 25-30.
I was messing with the calc. Even R25 Path B Nyame surprisingly looked decent for some multi hit WS. Mainly the pieces that get STR Augments and Atleast 5-6 DA.
I wanted Path A's
SimonSes said: »
and just to put above numbers to perspective:
Gae Buide: 3.283 sec to WS (1250TP+)
Gae Buide DSP: 16872
Gae Buide WS median: 69541
Naegling/Kraken: 1.401 sec to WS (1300TP+)
Naegling/Kraken DPS: 26646
Naegling/Kraken WS median: 76160
Naegling/Fencer: 3.255 sec to WS (1250TP+)
Naegling/Fencer: 18828
Naegling/Fencer WS median: 86058
Naegling all the things XD
Pretty disgusting lmao
I wish I had a KC. If you don't mind is it possible to check DPS with. :
Naegling + Ternion+1
Naegling + D Degen +1
Naegling + Mktis (lol I know...)
Or if you can throw that calc my way. I am currently using the all jobs calc But it seems a bit wonky sometimes.
Also I am trying to "Get gud" with my Stardiver sets. But it kind of feels like Impulse with Trishula are a bit more consistent.
It wouldn't be much different than an Anguta DRK spamming Cross Reaper. It breaks my heart just a bit though.
Curious what the DPS would look like.
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